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religion Go Home, Pat.
by GMFTatsujin
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(Ask and ye shall receive) on Jul 15, 2003 11:41:32 AM

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Maybe if we *all* squeeze our eyes shut real tight, we can wish Pat Robertson into a coronary.
Lookie here: CNN reports that religious broadcaster Pat Robertson urged his nationwide audience Monday to pray for God to remove three justices from the Supreme Court so they could be replaced by conservatives. "We ask for miracles in regard to the Supreme Court," Robertson said on the Christian Broadcasting Network's "The 700 Club."

And God, while you're at it, I have a little miracle that I'm interested in seeing, to wit: please please please, the next time Robertson starts speaking on television, make literal, palpable, non-metaphoric, straight-from-the-anus bullshit come pouring out of his mouth. Endlessly. Out of his nostrils too, if it's not too much trouble. His flock is so easily confused, you know.

That's all I had to say, really. No rant. Sometimes simple things, like imagery of never-ending suffering inflicted on foetus-fucking dirtbags like Robertson, are best. Carry on.

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    That's it, buddy.
    by zaxon(huk~)
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    on Jul 15, 2003 01:52:40 PM
    Next time you have Mystery Pain of some sort, Pat and Crew are going to specifically exclude you from their "Lord, please heal our faithful viewers" prayer ceremonies.
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    An absolute 10!
    by k2mike82
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    on Jul 17, 2003 12:48:53 AM
    I hate that fucking bastard
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    by raven(duz ur face hurt its killin me)
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    on Jul 18, 2003 06:56:27 PM
    you're ten-tacular.
    (no, not tentacles...)

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    Burn in hell, Robertson
    by ohmyfuckingod(
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    on Jul 21, 2003 12:46:27 PM
    What a fucker. What about the golden rule?
    If his group prayer succeeds in killing them, he should hang for murder. If just a medical problem, he should have to pay their goddamn medical bills.
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    by ytrozs
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    on Jul 22, 2003 06:41:24 PM
    Well, religion is the opiate of the masses. As usual, Pat Robertson is way fucking high on it. The sad part is the rest of the crack-smoking Fundamentalists who buy this rock.

    But hey, first amendment and so on. He can believe what he wants. So can the Pope. And I can believe that they're all crazy delusional if they think anything they say means crap to most people.
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      way to say something original
      by Skewfield(bean makes me fart)
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      on Jul 22, 2003 09:26:49 PM
      The next time you feel the urge to vomit up whatever swill of overhashed Karl Marx aphorisms (popularized by a mainstream "alternative" band styling themselves to be otherworldly and of higher consciousness) conglomerated with junior high "social studies" diatribes, teenage logic and syntax/grammar below the level of your average 40 year-old ESL student, would you kindly consider locating an appropriate receptacle into which to spew it? my shoes are looking worse for the wear. next time i might need to refine their luster a little by exerting some massive impulse against your gluteus maximus and luxate your patellas, kthx.
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        Hmm, Pinched a Nerve, Did I?
        by ytrozs
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        on Jul 24, 2003 11:37:04 AM
        How long did you have to spend with a thesaurus to come up with that post, Bible-thumper?

        Oh, and let me introduce you to Mr. Capital Letter. He goes at the beginning of sentences.

        I am well aware that it's not an original idea. Of course, neither is making empty headed verbal threats without addressing substance at all. If attacking my post with derisive language and flowery prose used to cover up your ignorance is the best you can do, I truly pity you.

        Frankly, if you think that organized religion is anything other than a controlling mechanism for the lower classes (work hard, be humble, and ye shall be rewarded in the afterlife), you really need to read up on some of the social studies you so obviously missed out on earlier in life. Let me know when you have something interesting to say.
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          Hrm. gold star
          by GMFTatsujin(Ask and ye shall receive)
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          on Jul 24, 2003 01:00:15 PM
          if you think that organized religion is anything other than a controlling mechanism for the lower classes (work hard, be humble, and ye shall be rewarded in the afterlife), you really need to read up on some of the social studies you so obviously missed out on earlier in life.

          Well, if by "organized religion" you mean "ethnocentric Calvinist ideal," you may have a point.

          Other religions around the world seem to be based on the idea of having a spiritual connection to the world around you, making you a part of the world process instead of seperate from it (a number of a so-called aboriginal theosophies come to mind). The point is less on the sense of impending reward imparted by a judging deity, and highlights more a complete appreciation of, and participation in, the present moment. Still others focus on separation from perception of the world, and still other deny that there is even a world to perceive. The vast majority of them are highly organized, involving defined motifs and ceremonies performed by acknowledged holy men and women.

          Doesn't sound like your usual aristocratic, man-keeping-you-down, cog-in-the-machine conspiracy goodthink to me. Sounds more like a bunch of people figuring out a way to be a part of the world as they see it. Economic imperialism hasn't crushed *everyone's* spirit, you know.

          You may be up with your 19th century political theory, but it looks like your modern day anthropology could use a little brushing up on.

          Frankly, you're still going through the growing spurts of articulating your irate nature. Quibbling over syntax and capitalization is a hallmark, and the adolescent revelry of "pinching a nerve" is a dead giveaway. It's okay. The Arrogant Blowoff maneuver is the first -- useless, but first -- step on a long road to GFD perfection. Keep at it.
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            Well, There's An Answer
            by ytrozs
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            on Jul 24, 2003 01:30:45 PM
            At least you've expounded upon the issue at hand, rather than the syntax of the argument.

            Certainly, the Buddhist and Hindu faiths make a much greater point of harmony with the world one inhabits, but there always seems to be some element of a final reward (karma comes to mind) for one's behavior beyond making the simple point that with a little effort, we wouldn't need a perfect afterlife, as we could create a heaven on earth as it were. Were there other religions you'd like to mention? Native American religious traditions, perhaps? The assertion that the gods, in the case of Hopi Kachina, walk among us rather than sitting on high dispensing some unfathomable fashion of justice?

            In any event, the religious faith preached by the likes of Pat Robertson (remember him - the topic of this particular story) does not truck with such humanist ideals, and is indeed primarily concerned with rewarding prejudice and quashing free thought. Of course, that's just a more extreme example of rigid ceremonial worship meted out by men and women presumed to be better, more pure than their flock.

            The Arrogant Blowoff? You mean something like "useless, but first -- step on a long road to GFD perfection. Keep at it"? Perhaps Responding In Kind is the second?
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              No, see, you still don't get it
              by GMFTatsujin(Ask and ye shall receive)
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              on Jul 24, 2003 06:17:25 PM
              If I were to go for the arrogant blowoff, I'd tell you to take off your beret, stop believing everything you think at Starbucks, and pull your head out of your ass. At no point in the previous post, please note, did I mention berets.

              "Useless but first" et cetera was not an arrogant blowoff. That was me being encouraging in a prickish manner. Again, with time and practice, you'll learn to tell the difference. :)
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          I think you should know
          by Skewfield(bean makes me fart)
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          on Jul 25, 2003 11:14:30 AM
          Your scurrilous comments regarding my mental capacity have no effect on me, but I hope you will note that I did not call you stupid, I merely accused you of not properly utilizing your cerebral cortex.

          I did address in my reply to your comment, namely the "content" of your post. I'm very interested in how my defense of intellectual integrity translates to me being a bible-thumper. My grief is not about the original topic, because I think it is silly, but the fact that you are so willing to regurgitate whatever carrion of the "Great Ideas" that you have been so blessed to pick up along the way, with absolutely no digestion whatsoever. The fact that original thought is alien to you is never more apparent than in your snide little attempts to dig at me, insinuating that someone needs to use a thesaurus or dictionary to come up with a word more than three syllables long. Do you assume that everyone has the same education and level of capability at the same skills that you do? I have no need for your pity, but I think a little cultivation of innovative cogitation might do you some good.
          If you are going to make a statement, own it. This may only be a message board with contributors of various import, but if you are not willing to expend a little mental energy in your free time, you have no hope of doing it when the need is pressing.

          As for religion being the machinery that the unscrupulous use to rend the common man, I disagree. Unless you believe the likes of B. F. Skinner, humans have free will, and nothing has greatly changed in our psyche since religion first appeared. Come on, give humans a modicum of credit, here. People have been resisting the socioeconomic ills of Theocracies throughout the span of recorded history. Religion exists to fill a need some people have, and whether it is to be told what to do or to be comforted in an insecure world or to fill some sort of need for spiritual enlightenment depends upon the individual. Religion may more accessible to those in extreme poverty than knowledge, but I think you will agree with me that ambivalence and apathy are infinitely more so, for all humans, and probably more rewarding than any promises of riches in the world beyond. In our time, fewer Americans are attending church than ever, and those that do are not forced to do so. Religion has nothing on television and internet. And even then, certainly no one is coerced to watch the 700 Club! If there is any great sentient being in the sky, I doubt he takes Pat Robertson and his prayers for infinite justice very seriously, anyway. And to the people he asked "the creator" to smite, well, I doubt they are very concerned either. And maybe, just maybe, one of Pat Robertson's deranged insomniac "fans" will take it upon his/herself to do what Pat hopes God will do, but again, the probability of that is very low. Idle threats only have the effect that one allows them to have. Finally, if you allow yourself to become worked up over something as silly and meaningless as this, then you are sealing the deal between yourself and the REAL drug of choice for the teeming millions: the media.

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    Meanwhile, in 2010:
    by GMFTatsujin(Ask and ye shall receive)
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    on Jan 13, 2010 10:29:47 PM
    Haiti sends its regards.
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